| How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch | |
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andrema Senior Associate
Posts : 4263 Join date : 2009-07-08 Age : 112 Location : CT
| Subject: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:07 pm | |
| It sounds like common sense, but this is actually a pretty good article. I found this at: http://ialreadyhaveawatch.com/2009/11/how-to-tell-if-water-has-gotten-into-your-watch/#more-1115 How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your WatchAnd What to Do if You Get Water in Your Watch Omega Speedmaster Professional with 6 o'clock marker that no longer glows. Water damage turned out to be the culprit. It goes without saying that water has obviously gotten inside the watch if condensation is observed inside under normal conditions. But aside from that telltale giveaway of condensation, sometimes otherwise unexplained symptoms can present that might indicate that there’s water inside the case, among them luminous material on hands or dials that appears to darken or suddenly ceases glowing. It can be helpful to use this method to test for the presence of water to help figure out what’s going on, or even just as a precautionary measure or indicator to help determine if a watch needs to be serviced. If you suspect or at least want to rule out the possibility of there being water inside the case, there’s a fast, easy, and reliable method:
- Gently heat the watch. Don’t *cook* it, just get it warm to the touch. Watchmakers typically use an electric warming plate, but some easy ways to do this with everyday methods are using a lamp, heater or even a hair dryer.
- Place a drop or two of cold water on the crystal. Melting a few drops from an ice cube works great.
- Wait 10 seconds or so and wipe the water away using a soft cloth.
- Observe the spot where the water was:
- If no condensation or condensation that goes away within a few seconds forms, the watch is fine.
- However, if condensation forms on the underside of the crystal that does not fade away after a few seconds there is water inside the watch and the condition needs to be addressed immediately.
</LI> If there’s water in the case, it needs be taken care of immediately to prevent potentially permanent damage to the watch. If you have the proper tools and skills, it can be as simple as opening the case and allowing it to dry near a gentle heat source, taking care to prevent dust from being allowed to get inside the case. However, even if you manage to dry the watch out this still won’t do anything to identify or fix the problems that allowed the water to get in there in the first place and won’t prevent it from happening again. Drying the watch out may halt the damage from occurring but won’t do anything to fix aging or improperly fitted gaskets, crowns, and crystals. So a better and more thorough method especially for rare or valuable watches is to get the watch to a watchmaker immediately especially if you the water inside may be chlorinated swimming pool water or seawater, both of which are especially corrosive in watch movements. Yes, this really works. If you can’t open the case or get it to a watchmaker in short order or can’t get the case opened to dry it out yourself, there are some options that might help mitigate the damage until it can be properly remedied. The best thing to do is to seal the watch in an airtight container or plastic bag with a material that will act as a desiccant and store it in a warm place. Some good examples of commonly available desiccants are purpose-designed drying products like calcium chloride products like Damp Rid from hardware or home improvement stores, “crystals” type cat litter (the white, pure silica gel kind is better than the kinds blended with gray clay but even it can help) or even dry rice. A commonly recommended method is to gather as many of the “do not eat” silica gel packets that come with camera equipment and such. However, unless they’re very new there’s no telling how much of their absorption potential may have already been expended. Depending on the nature of the fault(s) that allowed the water inside, this may help draw out at least some of the water. Or if you get really desperate, an unconventional option is to double-seal the watch in plastic bags and/or airtight containers (with or without a desiccant material) and simply place it in the freezer. This will cause the water to freeze solid and will stop or at least greatly slow any corrosion. This temporary measure is only helpful at slowing the damage until it can be addressed properly. NOTE: this should * not* be used for quartz or electrical watches as it can cause batteries to leak, and should not be done if there is sufficient water inside that it can be seen sloshing around visibly as expansion on freezing can cause damage. The freezing method is less than optimal however, as once the ice melts there will be water inside the case again so it still must be opened as soon as possible upon removal. Over the years owners have tried some poorly thought out methods, some of which are ineffective and some can severely worsen the problem. So whatever you do, do NOT:
- DO NOT attempt to bake the water out in a household oven or using other methods using excessive heat. Unless you know exactly what you’re doing and are very careful you’re going to cause permanent damage to the watch. Baked watches aren’t tasty either.
- DO NOTpack the watch in salt to attempt to draw the water out. Salt + water = saltwater = horribly corrosive inside watch movements, making a problem a worse and bigger problem. And you already know the watch is leaky because there’s water inside it, so…
- DO NOT immerse the watch in water. It is sometimes recommended to immerse items suspected of having chlorinated or salt water inside in an attempt to reduce the concentration of corrosive elements. However, even fresh water can be damaging to hands and dials of watches, so it is typically better to use one of the the expedient methods above or else get it immediately to a watchmaker.
And if you wandered in here through Google after getting water in your watch, well, good luck.
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:13 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:53 pm | |
| Very interesting, but what the Hell do you do with the rest of the cat litter? I hate cats so I'm not going to buy one. |
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AtomicTom Senior Consigliere
Posts : 19431 Join date : 2009-08-25 Age : 52 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:51 pm | |
| Did somebody say Macgyver ? Some innovative ideas there, that is for sure. I hope I never have to resort to such things. However, it's good to know about these methods just in case ! THX. ____________________________________ | |
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:37 am | |
| Before I knew jack squat, I tried using the chrono on a digital timex to time my breatholding...underwater. The watch was DOA at the end of the week. Learned my lesson there. But good info nonetheless! |
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SynMike Senior Associate
Posts : 550 Join date : 2009-07-27 Location : Vancouver, BC
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:20 am | |
| How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch? It looks like this: | |
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sixtysix Consigliere
Posts : 7349 Join date : 2009-12-06 Age : 58 Location : North of Syracuse NY
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:53 am | |
| Yuck, that Tissot makes my heart sink...I have seen the insides of ones like this and it's just not something you want to see. Nice link.. ____________________________________ Later, GaryRemember we are the caretakers of mechanical art..... Member NAWCC, National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors | |
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:45 am | |
| - falcon4311 wrote:
- Very interesting, but what the Hell do you do with the rest of the cat litter? I hate cats so I'm not going to buy one.
Use it to soak up oil drips on your driveway or garage from your car? |
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PoliMalaka Senior Associate
Posts : 1985 Join date : 2009-06-15 Age : 50 Location : Tek-shsish
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:16 am | |
| Thanks for posting. I'm gonna try that on a couple
Please put this as a sticky in the whorology sexshun. | |
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:46 am | |
| Another method for telling if your watch has water inside it involves the use of auditory cues and may require asking someone younger to assist as auditory ability decreases with age. Place the watch carefully within 1-2 inches of a well functioning auditory instrument and gently shake it back and forth. Disregard the tick-tick-tick sound as that may be the watch movement itself. Focus on any sloshing or gurgling sounds. If heard, your watch has water inside it. |
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Noisy Nova Associate
Posts : 203 Join date : 2009-11-17 Age : 80 Location : Ontario, Canada
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:22 am | |
| Silica gel packets can be rejuved by baking in the microwave. | |
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:13 pm | |
| Just an FYI: you can also use a small, portable dehumidifier (probably overkill) or, when placing your watch in a box, a chemical dehumidifier. This comes in a package (around 8 to 15 ounces) that you would place in an area with the top off to absorb moisture. I would image that it wouldn't take much to scoop some of it out and place it in a smaller receptacle that easily fits inside the airtight box you place the watch in. They are known by a lot of names (such as "Damp Out - Dehumidifier in a Jar" — found this on eBay...you probably don't need 12 of 'em, so just look for stuff like this in a home-supply store: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UGSC6S/ref=asc_df_B000UGSC6S1021391?smid=A1SV1BYDTUK2Z5&tag=shopzilla_mp_1060-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B000UGSC6SProducts like this often are used in gun safes, etc., to keep the humidity low. I know about them because some also are marketed to the RV industry (RVs tend to suffer from localized mold and mildew). Hope this helps. |
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andrema Senior Associate
Posts : 4263 Join date : 2009-07-08 Age : 112 Location : CT
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:19 pm | |
| - SynMike wrote:
- How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch?
It looks like this:
Gotta love the sea star! | |
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| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:40 am | |
| theres a much simpler way to do this.I was an automotive painter for awhile.the problem with applying heat from a hairdryer or other heating device is the outside gets hot 1st.While this is great to see if moisture is inside the watch it won't get the water out.by the time you get the watch to a jeweler, its probably to late. When painting a car, each layer has solvent in it.you lay down a wet sealer coat, then 3 coats of base then 2 coats of clear.In the common paintbooths you use forced heat at 145 degrees for 20 minutes to cure the paint.But it still takes another 24 hours for it to be completly cured.The solvents need to escape.If you painted just a fender and applied heat, it would cap off the clear coat and trap the solvents inside producing solvent pop when its cured.To avoid this and make paint cure completly and be buffable in 2 hours,theres a shortcut.You need heat, but you need it to dry from the inside out.Thus releasing the solvents. You use a infrared lamp.set it 18 inches from the surface.infrared dries it from the inside out and after 20 minutes, its cured.I got water in a watch that I was testing and used the infrared lamp.it dried the water on the inside of the watch in just afew minutes.My watchmaker only had to clean and lube the movement.zero water damage.long post, but any hardware store carries these lamps.it cures from the inside out.kind of saves you some major bucks. |
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AtomicTom Senior Consigliere
Posts : 19431 Join date : 2009-08-25 Age : 52 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: How to Tell if Water Has Gotten into Your Watch Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:06 pm | |
| - yamahaki wrote:
- theres a much simpler way to do this.I was an automotive painter for awhile.the problem with applying heat from a hairdryer or other heating device is the outside gets hot 1st.While this is great to see if moisture is inside the watch it won't get the water out.by the time you get the watch to a jeweler, its probably to late.
When painting a car, each layer has solvent in it.you lay down a wet sealer coat, then 3 coats of base then 2 coats of clear.In the common paintbooths you use forced heat at 145 degrees for 20 minutes to cure the paint.But it still takes another 24 hours for it to be completly cured.The solvents need to escape.If you painted just a fender and applied heat, it would cap off the clear coat and trap the solvents inside producing solvent pop when its cured.To avoid this and make paint cure completly and be buffable in 2 hours,theres a shortcut.You need heat, but you need it to dry from the inside out.Thus releasing the solvents. You use a infrared lamp.set it 18 inches from the surface.infrared dries it from the inside out and after 20 minutes, its cured.I got water in a watch that I was testing and used the infrared lamp.it dried the water on the inside of the watch in just afew minutes.My watchmaker only had to clean and lube the movement.zero water damage.long post, but any hardware store carries these lamps.it cures from the inside out.kind of saves you some major bucks. Sounds like a REALLY innovative idea Sean..not to mention cool ! I know I don't get my watches wet, but if something bad did happen THIS would be another possible option that would help !!! Thank you ! ____________________________________ | |
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