Flieger Hunting - Aristo? Archimede?

Hey Gang.

I've been wearing a garbage Sotomarino Pilotare
Would like a real (reliable) Flieger at a reasonable price.

Preferences
< $1k
> 44mm (so Sinn & Fortis are out )
3 Hand (fighting hard to resist 7750s)
9 eater seconds
Big onion style crown
See through case back
Automatic - considering Unitas (don't own one yet)
Not crazy about the furnace blue hands over black - but could get used to it.

On the Gnomonwatch site I noticed Aristo and Archimede.
Seem reasonable but don't know much about them.
Any good?

BTW a couple of the Steinharts look pretty good as well

The Sotomarino I currently have - Like everything about it except accuracy (Crazy Fast)

Steinhart navi B

Debaufre gmt navi B on bracelet





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. . . different, Rusky movement. Some other Junkers as well . . .

http://www.longislandwatch.com/Junkers_Watches.htm

Jaw looked at Aristo, and they look nice. Found a 44mm model that you
can check out. Also found a 45mm Archimede too ! Found a few others
from brands like Laco, but they might be too small at 42mm. The Steinhart
and Debaufre models do look AWESOME ! That Junkers even looks EXTRA
nice ! Here are a few links and pictures..

http://www.longislandwatch.com/Aristo/Aristo-Watches-2.htm

Aristo 3H83 Classic Aviator XL




http://www.gnomonwatches.com/archimedePilotXLH.html

http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-XL-H.htm

Archimede XLH



http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?id=67&Sel_ID=12

http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?id=67&Sel_ID=27

http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?id=67&Sel_ID=18

Steinhart Nav. B-Uhr Limited Silver Edition



http://www.watchmann.com/lacopilotwatches.asp

Laco Automatic Pilot Watch

TOTALLY diggin' Cali's suggestions!

Strangely, given my aviation interests and activities over the years, the Fliegers have never been a favorite of mine. However, I have several friends who have Steinhart Aviator watches and they RAVE about the customer service, the fact that you can get them customized from the maker with no real effort (different crowns, etc), and they're solid well build pieces that wear well. I'd stay away from the Junkers given reports over the years on other fora.

problem with your watch? might be magnetised.easy enough to check.look at the hairspring under the balance.chances are its bunched up on one side or the coils are over lapping.its an easy fix. handwind mechanicals look great but do require more care.they don't handle shocks well or magnetism.





as far as stowa? doesn't get any better.



For fliegers,I'd stay with companies that actually made them in the beginning.Especially Laco and stowa.but kremkes flieger is probably better than the others.its totally a fricker cased watch.

Outstanding choices, I love the Debaufre, Stowa and Archimedes. Definitely go 3 hand with or without the 9 eater. I went budget and picked this up from eBay with a Miyota auto and put it on a Debaufre strap, not bad for a cheapo:

Trevor's suggestions are ALL top-notch to me! I would go with any of those for sure!

Thanks Guys - Great Stuff.
Good to know I'm not too far off the mark.

Great links Tom - Thanks.
Steinhart 7750 chronos were verrry tempting - maybe next time.

Really leaning towards Steinhart Nav-B for domed crystal, 9 eater, crown, and 47mm.
Course I need to consider Sean's insight on Unitas care/handling.
Archimede definetly a contender - from Sean's great pics.
Aristo appears to be out.

Speaking of Sean - Nice family of Fliegers you've got there.
Nothing really wrong with my Sotto other than crazy fast and not a bona fide Flieger from a reputable company like Stowa, etc.
Really like to find my way to the ultimate best source of what ever I'm interested in.
My motto - Buy the best you can possibly afford, or just be ready to buy it again.

So Stowa and Luca would be ideal if they were a tad larger.
Will however, try to demagnetize it - hairspring adjustment is outta my depth.
I think it's an 8215

Thanks again ALL!

Hey Jeffrey!

Something in your size:
https://2img.net/h/i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo116/GCHall/DSC03235.jpg

It's for sale for 875.00 at WUS.........I see it has been reduced to 845.00

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=374638&highlight=Ball

jaw wrote:

Thanks Guys - Great Stuff.
Good to know I'm not too far off the mark.

Great links Tom - Thanks.
Steinhart 7750 chronos were verrry tempting - maybe next time.

Really leaning towards Steinhart Nav-B for domed crystal, 9 eater, crown, and 47mm.
Course I need to consider Sean's insight on Unitas care/handling.
Archimede definetly a contender - from Sean's great pics.
Aristo appears to be out.

Speaking of Sean - Nice family of Fliegers you've got there.
Nothing really wrong with my Sotto other than crazy fast and not a bona fide Flieger from a reputable company like Stowa, etc.
Really like to find my way to the ultimate best source of what ever I'm interested in.
My motto - Buy the best you can possibly afford, or just be ready to buy it again.

So Stowa and Luca would be ideal if they were a tad larger.
Will however, try to demagnetize it - hairspring adjustment is outta my depth.
I think it's an OS15

Thanks again ALL!

Glad to help out sir ! There is alot to choose from, and you really can't
go wrong, no matter what you decide on. Have fun looking and enjoy !