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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 8:31 pm

Anomaly wrote:
If crime is SO bad where you are going, why even wear a FAKE and draw attention to yourself to begin with? Weak at best argument.

Wear a George watch from Wal-mart and be safe!

Can't do that. The people who make George watches are probably in China and they probably make fakes at the same factory--or supply parts to people who do make fakes.

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AlbertaTime wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
If crime is SO bad where you are going, why even wear a FAKE and draw attention to yourself to begin with? Weak at best argument.

Wear a George watch from Wal-mart and be safe!

Can't do that. The people who make George watches are probably in China and they probably make fakes at the same factory--or supply parts to people who do make fakes.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 8:42 pm

Anomaly wrote:
AlbertaTime wrote:
Anomaly wrote:
If crime is SO bad where you are going, why even wear a FAKE and draw attention to yourself to begin with? Weak at best argument.

Wear a George watch from Wal-mart and be safe!

Can't do that. The people who make George watches are probably in China and they probably make fakes at the same factory--or supply parts to people who do make fakes.

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LMAO!

Well, if any of what I said is true--that means buying a George watch must be supporting terrorism. scratch scratch scratch
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 8:45 pm

@Jaw.... I held these transcripts in my hand. Don't know if they are available online. Try a Google search.

@Alberta.... Your assertions and comparisons make no sense to me. Not sure why you would want to come to any sort of defense against counterfeits, short of ad hominem. Guns/narcotics/counterfeit watches? Apples/Oranges/Pears.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 8:57 pm

. . . . when I bought my MM, I was fresh on the scene. Now with only a short period of time gone by I already have a different sense of it.

It actually embarrassed me one day, true story here, when another customer in line at a grocery store noticed the MM on my wrist. He remarked "Nice Panny!" . . . I said it was an homge piece out of Hong Kong. End of conversation. He never met my eyes again. I felt like a shit-heel. Even though I never represented it as anything other than what it is . . . . it is so much of a dead knock off that it looks like a Pam, regardless of the name on the dial
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 8:59 pm

Aqua Homer wrote:
@Jaw.... I held these transcripts in my hand. Don't know if they are available online. Try a Google search.

@Alberta.... Your assertions and comparisons make no sense to me. Not sure why you would want to come to any sort of defense against counterfeits, short of ad hominem. Guns/narcotics/counterfeit watches? Apples/Oranges/Pears.

My point is simply that just because a criminal or a terrorist makes money doing something, it doesn't necessarily make doing that particular something bad. And my meaning is not unclear given what I wrote.

Or, in other words, although guns, narcotics and counterfeit watches are not the same things (aside: although apples, oranges and pears are all fruit)--the logical fallacies used to support prohibition of any of these three things are often identical.

I'll say it again: there may be many good reasons not to support or purchase fakes/replicas but the "supports terrorism" argument isn't one of them; it's based on a logical fallacy (as I described) and it's a poor argument.

Understand this: a bad argument for a good idea can only do damage to the good idea. So stick to the good arguments.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 9:02 pm

AlbertaTime wrote:
Aqua Homer wrote:
@Jaw.... I held these transcripts in my hand. Don't know if they are available online. Try a Google search.

@Alberta.... Your assertions and comparisons make no sense to me. Not sure why you would want to come to any sort of defense against counterfeits, short of ad hominem. Guns/narcotics/counterfeit watches? Apples/Oranges/Pears.

With respect, AH:

My point is simply that just because a criminal or a terrorist makes money doing something, it doesn't necessarily make doing that particular something bad. And my meaning is not unclear given what I wrote.

Or, in other words, although guns, narcotics and counterfeit watches are not the same things (aside: although apples, oranges and pears are all fruit)--the logical fallacies used to support prohibition of any of these three things are often identical.

I'll say it again: there may be many good reasons not to support or purchase fakes/replicas but the "supports terrorism" argument isn't one of them; it's based on a logical fallacy (as I described) and it's a poor argument.

Understand this: a bad argument for a good idea can only do damage to the good idea. So stick to the good arguments.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 9:06 pm

Whatever, man. I am so done arguing this topic. I have first hand knowledge that in at least one instance, the street -level sale of counterfeit watches sourced from China in the United States was an ingredient in a very large fundraising cake baked by the 9/11 conspirators. If it's not common knowledge to most, I'm sorry. I'm sure your U.S. Senator can help you find the documentation, if you contact him or her and express an interest.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 9:26 pm

Aqua Homer wrote:
Whatever, man. I am so done arguing this topic. I have first hand knowledge that in at least one instance, the street -level sale of counterfeit watches sourced from China in the United States was an ingredient in a very large fundraising cake baked by the 9/11 conspirators. If it's not common knowledge to most, I'm sorry. I'm sure your U.S. Senator can help you find the documentation, if you contact him or her and express an interest.

Again, with respect AH, because I do respect you...

I have no reason to disagree with the instance you're citing. But (for example) let's say the terrorists had opened a grocery store to raise money, instead--or sold flowers on the street. You wouldn't argue against buying groceries or flowers. Or: terrorists have used tourists as hostages to raise money--but that's not an argument against tourism, and it doesn't speak to the "good"ness or "bad"ness of the hostages either.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your take on COPY watches?   What's your take on COPY watches? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 24, 2010 10:13 pm

Agreed. However, grocery or flower buying is not inherantly illegal, but I understand your point.
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