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sixtysix Consigliere
Posts : 7313 Join date : 2009-12-06 Age : 57 Location : North of Syracuse NY
| Subject: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:57 pm | |
| ____________________________________ Later, GaryRemember we are the caretakers of mechanical art..... Member NAWCC, National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors | |
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sixtysix Consigliere
Posts : 7313 Join date : 2009-12-06 Age : 57 Location : North of Syracuse NY
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:04 pm | |
| ____________________________________ Later, GaryRemember we are the caretakers of mechanical art..... Member NAWCC, National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors | |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:33 pm | |
| That sucker turned out SUHWEET Gary! I see you are no stranger to tearing watches apart by the tools in the backround of your pics! Definately a keeper. What case size did they use in that model? 36mm? |
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Anomaly Senior Associate
Posts : 7125 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 59 Location : Tampa, Florida
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:34 pm | |
| I literally said WOW outloud when seeing the movement!
Seeing Lancaster PA is cool too, AMERICAN!
VERY VERY COOL DUDE! ____________________________________ | |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:41 pm | |
| Ok so here I show my lack of knowledge yet again. Why are some movements adjusted and some not? How much of a difference in +/- sec does adjusting the movement make in comparison? Are COSC certified movements the only ones adjusted? Does a bear crap in the woods? Is Poli BAND???? |
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sixtysix Consigliere
Posts : 7313 Join date : 2009-12-06 Age : 57 Location : North of Syracuse NY
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:48 pm | |
| - bodypeersur1 wrote:
- That sucker turned out SUHWEET Gary! I see you are no stranger to tearing watches apart by the tools in the backround of your pics! Definately a keeper. What case size did they use in that model? 36mm?
Good eye! It's 35mm, I know...teeny tiny in todays world, but some of us like the vintage look. I can always glue it to the top of an Invicta Russian Diver. I read they were going cheap in another post!! Here is a great article on watch adjustments.... http://www.trusted-forwarder.org/elgin/technical/adjustments.html and yes I think Poli is BAND! ____________________________________ Later, GaryRemember we are the caretakers of mechanical art..... Member NAWCC, National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:50 pm | |
| That is a COOL watch. Gotta love the vintage pieces! Great pick on the leather. |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:00 pm | |
| Adjusted means that it was essentially timed in a variety of positions and/or temperatures. What that means is that we know a watch does not sit like clock in a single position in a temperature controlled environment. That means that the works are subjected to different effects of gravity, angular momentum, and temperature variations that can impact the accuracy of the movement. Adjusting across those factors can turn a watch that is fairly variable into one that is much more consistent in the time that it keeps in real use. More adjustments, in theory, means more likely to be accurate over the full range of uses and environments. In genuine practice, prior to about 1975 or so, 5 adjustments and Temperature were about the height of such in real watches available to the non-Millionaire. Here is a 1950s Bulova that is adjusted in 5 positions, Isochronism, and Temperature. That makes it the top of the line in Bulova movements at that time. Can't recall where I found this but I've cut and pasted this list in from somewhere years ago. The usual array of positions include a subset of the following positions: 1) Dial up 2) Dial down 3) Bow up 4) Bow down 5) Bow left 6) Bow right These positional adjustments are intended to insure that the watch is just as realiable and accurate regardless of the position in which it is stored or used. In addition to positional adjustments, the watch may also be adjusted for Temperature. Temperature affects different elements in different ways. Heat will cause some metals to expand faster than others, and cold may cause some metals to contract more than others. A watch that is adjusted to temperatures will usually include some combination of metals that allow the watch to maintain its proper functionality within a larger range of temperatures than one that is not adjusted for temperature. Another type of adjustment is Isochronism. As a typical watch spring unwinds the pressure it exerts on the wheels of the movement reduces. This has the potential to create a difference in the operating speed of a fully wound watch versus the same watch in an nearly fully unwound state. Adjustments for isochronism attempt to compensate for this potential by maintaining the same pressure from the spring throughout most of the operating range of the watch. This sort of adjustment was generally seen only on the finest railroad grade watches of the 20th century. The general rule of thumb with adjustments is that more is better. However, for average every day use, a typical unadjusted watch was perfectly adequate. |
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AtomicTom Senior Consigliere
Posts : 19345 Join date : 2009-08-25 Age : 52 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:30 pm | |
| Holy Macaroni THAT'S good Gary !!!! The way you got everything shined up, it must almost look like it did when it was new ! The case and crystal look great now. Even the movement is outstanding. Superb job on your Hamilton sir ! ____________________________________ | |
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pacifichrono Senior Associate
Posts : 1543 Join date : 2009-06-17 Age : 76 Location : Sunny San Diego
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:44 pm | |
| Outstanding Hammy! I love that broad beveled bezel. That's a tongue-twister! BTW, I think I read that COSC wasn't created until around 1971. | |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:46 pm | |
| - pacifichrono wrote:
- Outstanding Hammy! I love that broad beveled bezel. That's a tongue-twister!
BTW, I think I read that COSC wasn't created until around 1971. Tom, My recollection was mid-70s so I put around '75 but it may well have been '71. Prior to that watches with 5+ positions and TEMP and/or ISO were the best movements available as I understand it. |
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Northwestguy Senior Associate
Posts : 2612 Join date : 2009-07-12 Location : OREGON
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:51 pm | |
| Nice job on cleaning that watch up Gary! Love the case design. As a matter of fact, I like most of your timepieces! Looks like you have some of the right kinds of tools to work on watches. I need to get some for myself.
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:57 pm | |
| Excellent work on the Hamilton! Looks perfect. |
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sixtysix Consigliere
Posts : 7313 Join date : 2009-12-06 Age : 57 Location : North of Syracuse NY
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:56 am | |
| Thanks Y'all.....Now I need to look at that Bulova... ____________________________________ Later, GaryRemember we are the caretakers of mechanical art..... Member NAWCC, National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors | |
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smellody Consigliere
Posts : 2960 Join date : 2009-08-16 Age : 49 Location : West Salem, OR
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:04 am | |
| Looks great. What a nice find! | |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:07 am | |
| gary, you are the man! sweet watch! |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:56 pm | |
| Makes my early '70's look like poop. |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| Thanks, Dale. Now if I only knew more about it. Don't want to steal thread. Maybe I'll start another some time. The buckle still fits in the same hole, haven't really worn it since the late '70's. |
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pacifichrono Senior Associate
Posts : 1543 Join date : 2009-06-17 Age : 76 Location : Sunny San Diego
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:19 am | |
| - Docrwm wrote:
- pacifichrono wrote:
- Outstanding Hammy! I love that broad beveled bezel. That's a tongue-twister!
BTW, I think I read that COSC wasn't created until around 1971. Tom,
My recollection was mid-70s so I put around '75 but it may well have been '71. Prior to that watches with 5+ positions and TEMP and/or ISO were the best movements available as I understand it. Hey Robert! Actually, I missed where you earlier said 1975. Sorry. And I was just speaking off the top of my head when I said 1971. I just checked wikipedia: spilt the difference: it was 1973! | |
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| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:24 am | |
| I'm not much into vintage watches but that sure is a nice piece. |
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sixtysix Consigliere
Posts : 7313 Join date : 2009-12-06 Age : 57 Location : North of Syracuse NY
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:59 am | |
| - porschefan wrote:
- Makes my early '70's look like poop.
Looks great to me!! ____________________________________ Later, GaryRemember we are the caretakers of mechanical art..... Member NAWCC, National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:45 am | |
| - pacifichrono wrote:
- Docrwm wrote:
- pacifichrono wrote:
- Outstanding Hammy! I love that broad beveled bezel. That's a tongue-twister!
BTW, I think I read that COSC wasn't created until around 1971. Tom,
My recollection was mid-70s so I put around '75 but it may well have been '71. Prior to that watches with 5+ positions and TEMP and/or ISO were the best movements available as I understand it. Hey Robert! Actually, I missed where you earlier said 1975. Sorry. And I was just speaking off the top of my head when I said 1971. I just checked wikipedia: spilt the difference: it was 1973! No problem. I was going by my poor memory too. COSC was a reaction to the quartz revolution is what we need to focus on here. Some of our older watches (I say "our" in my sad attempt to place myself in a group with you Tom) from back-in-the-day that are Adj 5 + Temp are actually the top of the line for then. My Bulova that is 5+Temp+Iso was a rather expensive Chronometer grade equivalent for the day. Your Omega Connie must be one of the very earliest COSC watches. |
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PoliMalaka Senior Associate
Posts : 1985 Join date : 2009-06-15 Age : 50 Location : Tek-shsish
| Subject: Re: 1957 Hamilton Automatic Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:40 pm | |
| - falcon4311 wrote:
- I'm not much into vintage watches
Then STFU! | |
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