I heard a rumor involving the MM300 clasp.....

It's been decades since I owned a Rolex. There I said it.

Ok, that out of the way. I read elsewhere that Rolex finally copped a clue about their bracelets being a joke and copied the MM300 clasp among other things


Any truth to the rumor that Rolex no longer has the most hysterically over priced and under performing bracelets in WISdom?

best clasp on the market bar none! come on doc the rolex stuff is old!!!

cali kid wrote:

best clasp on the market bar none! come on doc the rolex stuff is old!!!

I agree, why do folks keep buying them??

Trev, is that photo yours? Very nice. Very nice.

I personally HELD a Rolex Deep Sea about six months ago, NOTHING on that watch was 2nd rate and the bracelet was SOLID!

Anomaly wrote:

I personally HELD a Rolex Deep Sea about six months ago, NOTHING on that watch was 2nd rate and the bracelet was SOLID!

Glad to hear they've improved their bracelets. I owned a Rolex and the bracelet was a POS - period. My question is legit - did they copy the MM300's famous extension for their newer diver bracelets?

Docrwm wrote:

Anomaly wrote:

I personally HELD a Rolex Deep Sea about six months ago, NOTHING on that watch was 2nd rate and the bracelet was SOLID!

Glad to hear they've improved their bracelets. I owned a Rolex and the bracelet was a POS - period. My question is legit - did they copy the MM300's famous extension for their newer diver bracelets?

Imo they don't look the same...

...I would need to see a peripheral shot of the Seiko bracelet.

best i could do with the bracelet pic of the marine master, also seems to be the same clasp that is on the orient saturation diver............im in no ways sure if it is the same type on the Rolex, but im guessing its similar in design and function.......

from what i can tell this is the same as on the marine master, and they both seem to have a slide out extension on the clasp, whereas it looks like the Rolex deep see lifts up..........

not my pic but i suggest you take the MM bracelet down to your rolex AD and compare, dont think there will be much doubt if they copied seiko bracelet!! Dont most seiko lovers say this seiko bracelet rattles like crazy and doesnt fit the case very well, kinda a one bracelet fits all kinda thing?

cali kid wrote:

not my pic but i suggest you take the MM bracelet down to your rolex AD and compare, dont think there will be much doubt if they copied seiko bracelet!! Dont most seiko lovers say this seiko bracelet rattles like crazy and doesnt fit the case very well, kinda a one bracelet fits all kinda thing?

No, not that I have heard. My monster bracelets don't rattle at all. My Double-Ought is on a Super Oyster and its just fine thanks.

As for copying - perhaps they tinkered with it but it looks as if the idea was certainly from the Land of the Rising Sun and not from the Alps. Just my opinion.

Oh, and its not just my opinion about Rolex bracelets in years gone by - google it. Perhaps, as I do not keep up with Rolex at all, they have changed their approach to bracelets in the past 4-5 years but I can tell you that when I got into WISdom around '05 they were derided by all but the hard-core Koolaid drinkers as being a joke. That led me to believe that they had done nothing to improve them in 10+ years since I had last handled one. Nothing is perfect, but at those prices (which seem to go up consistently even when the economy is poor) they ought to be a lot closer IMHO.

Oh, and before anyone says it - Seiko ain't perfect either but its a lot more value for your money IMHO too. It's why I no longer own a Rolex but consistently add Seiko's to my hoard.

Tell me about it Useries bought new on jan 28 1999! the next series to come out had solid endlinks and gold through the clasp! tried checking into buying solid endlinsd and they say it wont work with this bracelet, clasp with the gold running through it was over 300 bills! New bracelet from rolex will cost over 3 grand! most experts have told me to leave it only it's worth more money as original or if i do replace the clasp to save the original! Notice on this series the silver numbers on the bezel insert(i think it looks better but now they have gone to all gold numbers) U series still had the drill lugs which give it a better look in my book! This piece was a daily wear watch for 5 years so the bezel insert has some battle scars and i would never think of putting an afttermarket insert on it and dont want to pay the Rolex price for a new one! About six months ago on ebay a watch dealer in the mid west was parting out a TT 16613 and the bracelt with solid endlinks i had for 750.00 and was snipped at the last second, man i was pissed!
Here is my baby and some paperwork to show it's real!! (joke between me and chris) could go into the different types of lume rolex has used over there years and the dial markings that match up to the lume but to make it simple the U series is the only rolex watch to use three different lume materials tritium("SWISS T<25") 1996-1998, luminova (SWISS) 1998-1999 and super luminova ("SWISS MADE") 2000- present during it's run from 1996 to early 2000!
All the rolex history i've got for a Seiko thread today!!











Dont need any hate mail so i just covered up my address in photobucket!!


People talk about the cost of service, well this was the one and only service and they take the movement completely apart a clean it, take the bracelet apart and polish the gold and brush the stainless and polish the case! Then they test it for time for a couple weeks and it comes home looking brand new less bezel insert didnt want to pay for!!!