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AtomicTom Senior Consigliere
Posts : 19431 Join date : 2009-08-25 Age : 52 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:36 pm | |
| How would you do things ? ..Would you have your own case designs, or use an existing case design or designs ? Also what type of movements would be in your line-up ? What type of watches or styles would you focus on ? Would you make classic designs or more unique looks, or both ? How would you put your watches together ? By hand or machine ? Just thought this would be fun to think about ! What do you guys think ? ____________________________________ | |
| | | Anomaly Senior Associate
Posts : 7125 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 59 Location : Tampa, Florida
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:39 pm | |
| Depends on cash flow I guess...
I definitely would NOT follow the current micro brand trend where EVERYTHING looks the same...
I would try to land somewhere between NFW and Android... ____________________________________ | |
| | | merichar Senior Associate
Posts : 2334 Join date : 2009-08-23 Location : Northern Oregon
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:52 pm | |
| I would like to design and manufacture my own cases. Maybe consider making own dials and hands. Buy the rest of the parts off the shelf or subcontract them out. Start out with a diver and a pilot style or two, both three handers. Nothing crazy, just simple classic designs unlike anything you've ever seen before. Of course my watches would be hand assembled by the very best watchmakers Northwest Oregon has to offer. As a matter of fact, I'm taking pre-orders now. For $2800 you can reserve yours now. Limited edition of however many I can sell. Computer generated renderings to follow. Delivery date unknown. | |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:52 pm | |
| - Anomaly wrote:
- I would try to land somewhere between NFW and Android...
I'd like to land somewhere between Basel and Le Locle. |
| | | AtomicTom Senior Consigliere
Posts : 19431 Join date : 2009-08-25 Age : 52 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:03 pm | |
| - Anomaly wrote:
- Depends on cash flow I guess...
I definitely would NOT follow the current micro brand trend where EVERYTHING looks the same...
I would try to land somewhere between NFW and Android... You are DEFINITELY right Alan ! I can't imagine how much it would cost to run a watch company, even a small one ! It would be great to have original ideas, as well as watches too. Coming up with imaginitive and original designs would be the best. However, that would also be more expensive I guess. In any case, a company in between NFW and Android would be excellent if you ask me ! ____________________________________ | |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:15 am | |
| if i had the skills would have go with what UTS has done! One man building all his cases and sourcing the best parts! |
| | | smellody Consigliere
Posts : 2960 Join date : 2009-08-16 Age : 50 Location : West Salem, OR
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:23 am | |
| I would make one watch with no variations (More or Less). . . it worked pretty well for these guys: It will be the same with these babies. Catchy name, quality build. They may fetch $50: | |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:33 am | |
| Damn good looking and next to impossible to get, think there is only one! That XMT special just friggin rocks! |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:44 am | |
| - AtomicTom wrote:
- Anomaly wrote:
- Depends on cash flow I guess...
I definitely would NOT follow the current micro brand trend where EVERYTHING looks the same...
I would try to land somewhere between NFW and Android... You are DEFINITELY right Alan ! I can't imagine how much it would cost to run a watch company, even a small one ! It would be great to have original ideas, as well as watches too. Coming up with imaginitive and original designs would be the best. However, that would also be more expensive I guess. In any case, a company in between NFW and Android would be excellent if you ask me ! Thanks, guys.... I'll take that as a compliment! Also, Wing and I know each other and have a great deal of respect for each other. We do some things in similar ways, and some things very differently. But we both run our companies with a lot of integrity, and that counts for a lot. There's a lot of political muscle that gets thrown around, much of which you don't realize unless you're in the trenches. I'm always having to deal with the big euro watch conglomerates trying to muscle NFW out of jewelry stores because we're taking a piece of their pie. And these guys carry a lot of clout. So, it's important for me to maintain tight relationships with our jewelers. And also important for us little guys to find ways around the big guys. If you can't go thru 'em, find a way around 'em! To start NFW, I sold my house and used that money to get things rolling. It was a big risk, but it also made for a very strong incentive to succeed (succeed or live under a bridge!!!). We're doing well now, and have been able to make a difference with some charity organizations too. Being a successful company allows me to help others, and that was also part of why I wanted to do what I do. But every day is a struggle and my wife works full-time. I'm definitely not rich and I put in very long hours. Every weekend, and most holidays, you'll find me working. But I also make sure to have family time and I definitely love designing our watches, figuring out how to sell them, talking with our customers, and just running this little watch company. But I did have 10 years of industry experience before I started, and lots of strong contacts all over the world. This was vital in order to make it happen. So, to me, I saw no other route than to make it a success. Cheers! George It's certainly not an easy, or inexpensive, undertaking.
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:48 am | |
| Great Post G, Thanks for sharing. |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:51 am | |
| George, you have a real watch company and not just buying parts of the shelve or catalog! You have much more at stake and risk with each new design YOU develop! I love the 2000m diver going around right now but come on 6 companies selling the same case watch, just too easy for someone else to do the R&D and that would never happen at NFW! |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:57 am | |
| - cali kid wrote:
- George, you have a real watch company and not just buying parts of the shelve or catalog! You have much more at stake and risk with each new design YOU develop! I love the 2000m diver going around right now but come on 6 companies selling the same case watch, just too easy for someone else to do the R&D and that would never happen at NFW!
LOL! Maybe those other guys who buy the parts already designed, tooled and engineered are much smarter than I am!!!! Perhaps I'm doing it the hard way, but I'm a designer by nature, so for me it's almost like I don't even have a choice.... I get a design in my head and it drives me crazy until I get it down on paper and tinker with it until I feel a sense of calm excitement. And then navigating thru the puzzle of engineering it is also something I savor with every design. But it does get costly! Well, I am what I am.... and it's either a blessing or a curse, I'm not sure which! But thanks, buddy. I appreciate your kind words! G |
| | | Anomaly Senior Associate
Posts : 7125 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 59 Location : Tampa, Florida
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:59 am | |
| Great autobiography G! Daddy!
Your house in is order and that's why you are successful!
Much respect sir, much respect! ____________________________________ | |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:06 am | |
| - Anomaly wrote:
- Great autobiography G! Daddy!
Your house in is order and that's why you are successful!
Much respect sir, much respect! Thanks, Big A! And now that you run your own forum I'll bet you've got some very interesting perspectives that you probably didn't have before! Well, it looks like you're doing a bang-up job here, old chap! Remember back in the days when you'd get hammered for speaking your mind in some of those snobby forums? I'm glad to see you did it YOUR way! Congrats, my friend!!! |
| | | Anomaly Senior Associate
Posts : 7125 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 59 Location : Tampa, Florida
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:11 am | |
| Without sounding GHEY ( I borrowed that)...
...means a lot coming from you G! ____________________________________ | |
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| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:35 am | |
| . . . Really a tough call. I do not believe I could it. Not for lack of drive or ability . . . but because I would have a nearly impossible time not catering strictly to my own tastes and desires.
When I had my shop running in Washington state, my wife would go nuts over the amount of work I declined. If it was not a project I was truly interested in, with an end result I thought would be cool . . . . I walked it!!!
No heart, no soul!!!! |
| | | AtomicTom Senior Consigliere
Posts : 19431 Join date : 2009-08-25 Age : 52 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: If You Had Your Own Watch Company... Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:49 am | |
| - G.Fox wrote:
- AtomicTom wrote:
- Anomaly wrote:
- Depends on cash flow I guess...
I definitely would NOT follow the current micro brand trend where EVERYTHING looks the same...
I would try to land somewhere between NFW and Android... You are DEFINITELY right Alan ! I can't imagine how much it would cost to run a watch company, even a small one ! It would be great to have original ideas, as well as watches too. Coming up with imaginitive and original designs would be the best. However, that would also be more expensive I guess. In any case, a company in between NFW and Android would be excellent if you ask me ! Thanks, guys.... I'll take that as a compliment! Also, Wing and I know each other and have a great deal of respect for each other. We do some things in similar ways, and some things very differently. But we both run our companies with a lot of integrity, and that counts for a lot.
There's a lot of political muscle that gets thrown around, much of which you don't realize unless you're in the trenches. I'm always having to deal with the big euro watch conglomerates trying to muscle NFW out of jewelry stores because we're taking a piece of their pie. And these guys carry a lot of clout. So, it's important for me to maintain tight relationships with our jewelers. And also important for us little guys to find ways around the big guys. If you can't go thru 'em, find a way around 'em!
To start NFW, I sold my house and used that money to get things rolling. It was a big risk, but it also made for a very strong incentive to succeed (succeed or live under a bridge!!!).
We're doing well now, and have been able to make a difference with some charity organizations too. Being a successful company allows me to help others, and that was also part of why I wanted to do what I do.
But every day is a struggle and my wife works full-time. I'm definitely not rich and I put in very long hours. Every weekend, and most holidays, you'll find me working. But I also make sure to have family time and I definitely love designing our watches, figuring out how to sell them, talking with our customers, and just running this little watch company. But I did have 10 years of industry experience before I started, and lots of strong contacts all over the world. This was vital in order to make it happen. So, to me, I saw no other route than to make it a success.
Cheers!
George
It's certainly not an easy, or inexpensive, undertaking. Holy Cow !!!! I can't believe ALL of the TREMENDOUS insight you just gave there Mr. Fox ! It's unbelievably cool to talk with you..WOW ! I thought the topic would be interesting, but getting the truth from a genuine watch company owner like yourself is just PHENOMENAL sir ! I honestly did not know all the details on how you started NFW ! Amazing ! Many times as watch people we see all of these companies and wonder what it would be like to have a watch company. What it would be like to design watches that people will like. To imagine, create and actually be successful in building great watches for people. Doing what makes you truly happy, while dealing with the obstacles put up in the industry and finding a way to beat the odds ! It's all pretty GREAT really and once again thanks for giving us some terrific insight into having your own watch company !..Take care ! ____________________________________ | |
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