Its all perspective I guess. I'm looking hard at Kremke and Korsbek, but waiting for the right deal. Can't bring myself to drop $1600 for a new one. If I spend that much, (twice as much as I've ever spent for any watch) why not throw in a few more bills and buy an established brand with more than a few years heritage? A few years ago I would have told anyone that they are nuts to spend more than a hundred bucks on a watch-baby steps.