look in here invicta best new watch tonight very rare swiss eta auto

. . . that watch is on Shop as I type this. Better than alot of the stuff they have offered in a while no doubt. . . . but I just cannot see paying a grand for it. Regardless of the usual reasoning why not to . . . I voted with my wallet some time back, and will not put a nickel in the pockets of the people selling them. My two-bits for what it's worth . . . which is about two bits!

I actually DO LIKE the look of this watch, the movement, etc.

But I wonder how low it will be on ChronoShark or WOW in about 3-5 weeks?

Firt off, I HATE Invicta....

WIth that said, this is a nice watch and a departure from their usual monstrosities....Too bad they put such a good movt into a watch with FLAME FUZION Crap.....No matter how nice it may be, I wont touch it with Trevors ten foot pole.....Wow that sounded wrong in sooo many ways..

Nice movement, and a real departure for Invicta, with blue hands makes for a good watch in several ways. Flame Fusion? Are they still trying to sell that shit? Why ruin a perfectly nice combination of features with that and all the excess logo BS?

Thanks for the post Bro. The movement is great. As for Invicta.........NEVER AGAIN FOR ME! The few I have left are great but I refuse to line the pockets of The Lalo anymore and will no longer buy anything that Jim Skelton has anything to do with. And that's all I have to say.

its a shame as id drop 1k on that watch in a heartbeat if i didnt have such a shit sandwich from invicta over the years.....SHAME SHAME SHAME

Yeah they almost got me on this one - but I was strong.
Really wanted that movement and don't have a Speedway.
The case back of the 2 tone was awesome.
Credit disappointment in Invicta/JS/MD for not buying.
Plenty of other watches out there lookin for work.

This is very interesting LC ! 53 jewels sounds pretty impressive !
After looking into this movement, and more from Dubois Depraz.
It seems like they are used in some REALLY high end watches out
there ! Thanks for the info !

AtomicTom wrote:

This is very interesting LC ! 53 jewels sounds pretty impressive !
After looking into this movement, and more from Dubois Depraz.
It seems like they are used in some REALLY high end watches out
there ! Thanks for the info !

I'm still curious as to the location of the factory in Switzerland where their "Swiss Made" watches are produced. Can anyone answer that? Invicta Europe couldn't when I contacted them.

AtomicTom wrote:

This is very interesting LC ! 53 jewels sounds pretty impressive !
After looking into this movement, and more from Dubois Depraz.
It seems like they are used in some REALLY high end watches out
there ! Thanks for the info !

Tom,

True but remember its a module that is added on top of a movement that WAS NOT DESIGNED to power that module.

This from Chuck Maddox in discussing the Speedie Reduced (Auto version):

"Having said that, I have not heard anything bad about the accuracy or reliability of the movement... It's a 46 jeweled movement which is unusual because it has a fully jeweled Dubois-Dépraz 2020 chronograph module piggybacked on a fully jeweled ETA 2890-A2 watch movement. I have not heard anyone complaining of hands that don't reset to zero properly, fail to reset, exhibit "Chrono Hour Creep" or maladies that sometimes effect Chronographs... Nor have I heard anything derogatory about the fit or finish of the watch itself. Some would prefer that it have a screw-back instead of a snap-on back, However...

On the other hand… I've heard privately from several different people who have talked to watchmakers that the chronograph module in the reduced is a exceedingly difficult one to service... The time module, which is essentially a SeMP (non-chronograph) movement is is not at issue, however the word on the internet is that the chronograph module is nearly impossible to service or adjust for even the most technically adept watchmakers who speed though other common Omega Movements (c.321, c.x86x, c.1040, c.1041, c.1045, 7750's, etc.)... At least one watchmaker is known to just mail the chronograph module to Bienne and ask for a new module complete, which Omega will send, no questions asked, for a cost of around $140 US. Apparenly it is significantly less hassle to pay that cost than to work to repair the module. Hence it is wise to consider this potentiality when purchasing a watch. Many watchmakers will do a clean/lube and general adjustment for $100~150 or so... If a chronograph module is necessary then the parts cost alone has just increased by $140 or so."

$140.00 for a replacement module doesn't sound that bad..........wonder what the replacement cost would be?

Northwestguy wrote:

$140.00 for a replacement module doesn't sound that bad..........wonder what the replacement cost would be?

FWIW from a WG thread it would cost ~$750 to replace. OUCH.

jaw wrote:

Northwestguy wrote:

$140.00 for a replacement module doesn't sound that bad..........wonder what the replacement cost would be?

FWIW from a WG thread it would cost ~$750 to replace. OUCH.

One should then buy 2 of these watches and save one for replacement parts.......just about the same cost!

No thanks...

Northwestguy wrote:

jaw wrote:

Northwestguy wrote:

$140.00 for a replacement module doesn't sound that bad..........wonder what the replacement cost would be?

FWIW from a WG thread it would cost ~$750 to replace. OUCH.

One should then buy 2 of these watches and save one for replacement parts.......just about the same cost!

Actually JS stated this very fact on-air. Movement alone sells for the current SNBC price.

damn i love you guys from the old place and i haven't bought anything from shop in a year ok i did get a android but this movement in any other watch starts at 3000 and up some i find 20,000 i really really don't understand all the hate i really don't i love watches all kinds and all companys and most of the crap invicta makes now is just that but not here i did buy this watch,support, lined pockets , i guest but i don't have atless 3000 for this kind of rare movement.I guest i don't let things bother me the way all you have,so i don't know if i even belong here it's a watch.

bodypeersur1 wrote:

AtomicTom wrote:

This is very interesting LC ! 53 jewels sounds pretty impressive !
After looking into this movement, and more from Dubois Depraz.
It seems like they are used in some REALLY high end watches out
there ! Thanks for the info !

I'm still curious as to the location of the factory in Switzerland where their "Swiss Made" watches are produced. Can anyone answer that? Invicta Europe couldn't when I contacted them.

Docrwm wrote:

AtomicTom wrote:

This is very interesting LC ! 53 jewels sounds pretty impressive !
After looking into this movement, and more from Dubois Depraz.
It seems like they are used in some REALLY high end watches out
there ! Thanks for the info !

Tom,

True but remember its a module that is added on top of a movement that WAS NOT DESIGNED to power that module.

This from Chuck Maddox in discussing the Speedie Reduced (Auto version):

"Having said that, I have not heard anything bad about the accuracy or reliability of the movement... It's a 46 jeweled movement which is unusual because it has a fully jeweled Dubois-Dépraz 2020 chronograph module piggybacked on a fully jeweled ETA 2890-A2 watch movement. I have not heard anyone complaining of hands that don't reset to zero properly, fail to reset, exhibit "Chrono Hour Creep" or maladies that sometimes effect Chronographs... Nor have I heard anything derogatory about the fit or finish of the watch itself. Some would prefer that it have a screw-back instead of a snap-on back, However...

On the other hand… I've heard privately from several different people who have talked to watchmakers that the chronograph module in the reduced is a exceedingly difficult one to service... The time module, which is essentially a SeMP (non-chronograph) movement is is not at issue, however the word on the internet is that the chronograph module is nearly impossible to service or adjust for even the most technically adept watchmakers who speed though other common Omega Movements (c.321, c.x86x, c.1040, c.1041, c.1045, 7750's, etc.)... At least one watchmaker is known to just mail the chronograph module to Bienne and ask for a new module complete, which Omega will send, no questions asked, for a cost of around $140 US. Apparenly it is significantly less hassle to pay that cost than to work to repair the module. Hence it is wise to consider this potentiality when purchasing a watch. Many watchmakers will do a clean/lube and general adjustment for $100~150 or so... If a chronograph module is necessary then the parts cost alone has just increased by $140 or so."

Thanks for the extra info Duff and Doc ! ..Honestly hadn't
known about these movements, or the whole module thing !..Kind
of almost sounds like putting a supercharger on an engine or something.
Pretty interesting with the servicing and costs as well !..Thanks again !!!

As a side note, when I was looking information up about Dubois Depraz.
It seems as though Lum-Tec might be using a movement similar to this
in their Tungsten GMT at some point !

It's a nice looking watch, but when you buy a watch you buy the name too, beyond the TV shows Invicta doesn't have much of a reputation to stand on in the real world of watches, by the way they run their business. they make some really nice watches but they don't hold value long, buy one in a six months from those that will sell them at half because they were sold a watch.

loosecannon wrote:

damn i love you guys from the old place and i haven't bought anything from shop in a year ok i did get a android but this movement in any other watch starts at 3000 and up some i find 20,000 i really really don't understand all the hate i really don't i love watches all kinds and all companys and most of the crap invicta makes now is just that but not here i did buy this watch,support, lined pockets , i guest but i don't have atless 3000 for this kind of rare movement.I guest i don't let things bother me the way all you have,so i don't know if i even belong here it's a watch.

Hey Bro, we're only stating our opinions. Why does that make you feel like you don't belong here? No one is knocking you for your purchase. I'm happy you picked up a watch with a movement you've been wanting. I have personal issues with Jim Skelton and Invicta. That's the good thing about XMT....we can voice that without worrying about being "BANNED". Don't take this shit personal. Like you said, it's a watch. Read Doc's quote in my signature. Pretty much sums up the whole WIS thing in my opinion.

loosecannon wrote:

damn i love you guys from the old place and i haven't bought anything from shop in a year ok i did get a android but this movement in any other watch starts at 3000 and up some i find 20,000 i really really don't understand all the hate i really don't i love watches all kinds and all companys and most of the crap invicta makes now is just that but not here i did buy this watch,support, lined pockets , i guest but i don't have atless 3000 for this kind of rare movement.I guest i don't let things bother me the way all you have,so i don't know if i even belong here it's a watch.

. . . I really should keep my opinions to myself in regards to Invicta/Shop. I'm totally predictable about this topic and don't contribute a damn thing to the thread. I can't apologize for it, since I really do feel the way I state . . . ad nauseum, and apologies are issued to make the offender feel better not the offended.

. . . you certainly do belong here, and I am glad you are happy with the watch. Sincerely!!!

. . . honestly, this is one of the better aspects of XMT, that some of us have been allowed to progress and mature here without being flamed, dog-piled and abused for our learning curve. Not an apology, but for what it's worth, I feel out of line for venting and fucking up your moment of enjoyment . . . Randy.

Cannon...all that matters is that YOU like the watch and no one here is going to give YOU PERSONALLY any grief for getting something that YOU like!

Enjoy dude!

If everyone owned the same watches, or even liked the same watches, things would be BORING. Enjoy your new watch

I think its a gorgeous piece and I'm jealous as heck, Bill! That one could be the crown jewel in your collection. Its got that kind of potential. Enjoy!!

wagon wrote:

loosecannon wrote:

damn i love you guys from the old place and i haven't bought anything from shop in a year ok i did get a android but this movement in any other watch starts at 3000 and up some i find 20,000 i really really don't understand all the hate i really don't i love watches all kinds and all companys and most of the crap invicta makes now is just that but not here i did buy this watch,support, lined pockets , i guest but i don't have atless 3000 for this kind of rare movement.I guest i don't let things bother me the way all you have,so i don't know if i even belong here it's a watch.

. . . I really should keep my opinions to myself in regards to Invicta/Shop. I'm totally predictable about this topic and don't contribute a damn thing to the thread. I can't apologize for it, since I really do feel the way I state . . . ad nauseum, and apologies are issued to make the offender feel better not the offended.

. . . you certainly do belong here, and I am glad you are happy with the watch. Sincerely!!!

. . . honestly, this is one of the better aspects of XMT, that some of us have been allowed to progress and mature here without being flamed, dog-piled and abused for our learning curve. Not an apology, but for what it's worth, I feel out of line for venting and fucking up your moment of enjoyment . . . Randy.

I don't think you or anyone else was out of line, Randy...this thread wasn't started as a "Look what I got" but rather a "Look what Invicta's bringing out" train of thought...the OP didn't mention buying the watch until after most weighed in with their opinions.....given that, and given that the OP apparently knows some here from "before," I don't see how the reaction to Big Yellow comes as a surprise...

I thought the watch/movement was a pretty decent buy for the money...I just never really developed an appreciation for the Speedway/Daytona look, and didn't like the "Invicta" stamped into the side of the case of a thousand-dollar watch. But what I really didn't understand was how the most readable of the three variants offered — the two-tone (blue dial) — had the least number built, and the nearly unreadable "combat" version had the most built. This watch was sold on the basis of the movement, and how it will be passed down from generation to generation......overlooking the fact that the trend towards unreadable dials will in all probability fade away, leaving you to explain to your heirs why you could have ever bought a watch that you couldn't read.

Over 500 remaining in black!! I'm sure they wished they made more TT and silver!

I think they are overdoing the blac IP offerings. Last night Renato had a show and nearly all the watches were black IP.

Regardless of brand, MOVEMENT (other than being automatic) is waaaaaaaaaaay down the list of things that initially attracts me to a watch...

Its a nice module.Theres two types.A piggyback which the 2021 is when mated to the 2892-a2 and an integrated dd module.
I like the 2023 module used in the tag heuer aquagraph.Dead on reliable. This configuration that Invicta bought has the exact same
dial layout as the Hublot. Just from looking at the photos on shop,you can see they attached the hands correctly on this one.
you'll notice that the pinion? looks shroomed on top of the hands.their other models that don't attach the hands that way end up
falling off.That seems to be the big issue with invictas today.Shoddy assembly and parts.
Rarely is it ever the movement manufacturers problems.They can't know what will happen to a movement once its sold.
I think invicta used a better company to produce this one so most likely their won't be any hand or movement issues.Then
again,the price is pretty low which leads me to believe that again,corners were cut to make this watch.
If you've followed invictas track record for repairs,you find out that invicta can't repair any swiss movements.They don't have
the parts inventory.So while this is really a nice watch,in 5 years,whos going to service it? no service center in the states will
work on the dd module.They can service the base caliber,but thats it.These movements normally go back to Dubois-Dupraz
who installs a new module then rebuilds the old one.companies with long service history like omega and breitling who do use
dd modules on some models have inventory and can do the service.If invicta would buy parts when a model line is done,they're after sales
service would be much better.But because they don't have a factory and sell watches made by contractors,none of them will be
more than paperweights in the future.
I think invicta is the biggest throwaway watch company on the planet.only the older models can really be serviced by an independant watchmaker
if its just a movement service and seals.If they actually need case parts,then its history.

well i cancelled my order it seems some watches are coming in with hands that need recalib same old same old

loosecannon wrote:

well i cancelled my order it seems some watches are coming in with hands that need recalib same old same old

Thats really a shame.You'd think that after all of the watches that started to arrive at the end of last year and upto the current date,
Invicta would have fixed the problems.

Invicta chose to use new contractors in asia to get the per unit cost down.Nothing against asian companies.Some of the
better ones also have facilities in switzerland to meet the swiss made requirements.

The movement used in this watch is the most expensive part.The shop fan club posts that its a movement problem.
All of the watches with hands falling off, date wheels not lining up,automatic chronographs that have the hands out of sync?

Name me just one company thats not on shop that uses these movements that end up having problems when new.I can't think of
one myself.
Its not the movements fault.Its the companies fault that assembles them.Its the asshole designers who do these watches.Its the
supervisors who are supposed to check the proptypes for proper fitment of parts before production begins.
Its invictas fault for letting these get onto the market knowing up fron that they are bad watches.
Lastly its the fault of the buying public in there quest for ever lower cost watches that are large,look great and say swiss made on them.


Invictas swiss made watches gives the entire industry a black eye.When js posted that invicta doesn't need to meet swiss made
to put it on the watch,because us customs only looks at the movements origins,that was the end of me buying Invictas.
Better to be lied to and always guess at a watches origins than to be told that yes indeed,these are chinese with swiss made
printed on them.Invicta can do this because they, and their subsidaries aren't members of the swiss federation.How very fucking quaint.

+1! anoter invicta failure brought to market without enough real world testing! sound familiar?

. . . another file in the department of redundancy department . . .

And the sad part about the thing that people are still being ripped off. They use a very in demand movement, farm out the work and rake in peoples money. No, it isn't going for $4000/up, but I work pretty damn hard for my money and don't want $900+ dollars just thrown away! I'm glad you were able to cancel your order before you got stuck Bill.

i haven't bought a new invicta for awhile and with this so called rare and great movement i really wanted this one and take a chance,i'm not a movement snab but this was very differnt than anything i had well the watches for still coming in were are up to 8 with the same hand recali problem....i guest all i can have and love is all my v7750 SAIII sorry i just love the watch.

Sent to me anonymously from the place I am banned from. I posted on my forum and I post here for informational purposes only. Hopefully people who purchased this watch and are now having problems can contact Rebecca for assistance.....

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