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My Gawd this is really awful. I really feel for those that heard the music from this watch.
I actually heard a few notes from the movement alone myself but backed off.

You gotta take the company and history into consideration when making such a purchase.
Much to the omission of MD who emphatically stated only 3 things matter (paraphrased)
1. Do I like it?
2. Can I afford it?
3. Do I think the price is fair/reasonable?

Hope he isn't choking on that post now.

So sorry LC I know it was singin to ya.

The real pisser is that JS first went online at WG and posted that 7 watches with known problems "out of 1,800" wasn't exactly a big problem.........then it was pointed out that it was 7 known problems out of the hundred or so that were purchased by WG members.......

Sorry, but Invicta will never get any of my watch money...

...just saying.

Quote :

ANNOUNCEMENT: Regarding any defective Automatic Speedway




Eyal is pissed too, let me assure you. He is out of the country right now, but we have talked about this. I'm very certain there will be some loud meetings between him and Dubois-Depraz over this.

He has asked me to work closely with Rebecca to get this resolved. Nothing can possibly be done right away because she will not even see the messages until at least Monday. I would expect that within a week, we should have some answers for you.



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1st off,Eyal is a pimple in the watch industry.He has buyers that go to movement brokers.hes going to have a loud meeting with Dubois-Depraz?
for what? any other company that you know of that has quality issues with this movement? theres none that I know of.
invicta cases the watches,adds dials,handsets,pushers,movement holder.Blame Invicta 100% here.
they're the ones screwing up by going with the lowest bidder to make the watches.
Invicta can't fix these.They don't have a clue about the movement or how these were assembled at the swinesse factory.
Call Rebecca? for what?
A lesson to learn here.Don't buy cheap shitty cases with expensive movements shoved in them.
If you really want this movement then buy it from a company that has there own factory and a reputation to protect.

loosecannon wrote:

i haven't bought a new invicta for awhile and with this so called rare and great movement i really wanted this one and take a chance,i'm not a movement snab but this was very differnt than anything i had well the watches for still coming in were are up to 8 with the same hand recali problem....i guest all i can have and love is all my v7750 SAIII sorry i just love the watch.

I hope you're not missing the point some of us were trying to make Bill. We were just voicing that Invicta is not what they profess to be. The DO NOT have a factory in Switzerland. I know this for a fact because I had e-mailed Invicta Europe asking them where Invicta Swiss Made watches were being manufactured because it says on the website that they moved operations out of Switzerland. The response I received was exactly what Sean and others have said....they source out the work. The man that responded to my e-mail said that he was not exactly sure where they were produced but that they were made in Switzerland. I have some Invictas that I love...my Skelly which now has a 2824 in it, my OG III Diamond Meteorite and my very first Invicta my wife bought me. They will be with me forever. No one is condemning you for wanting that movement. But you must consider WHY Invicta could sell it at a price that no other watch company could...........cheap labor and other parts that take the value away from the DD. Enjoy the 7750 and don't feel bad that you didn't get taken like many others.

Additional New Announcement Info posted today - again by the same person on another forum
about this situation.

Quote :

AGAIN, JS CAN PAY IF HE WANTS HIS MESSAGES POSTED HERE

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TVDinner wrote:

Additional New Announcement Info posted today - again by the same person on another forum
about this situation.

Quote :

NO JS MESSAGES HERE, THANKS!

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Eyal should do himself a favor and stick with the same quartz movement on all of his watches...get that right first and then move onto them fancy automatic movements

Why are we letting jim post on our forum through james???? And sean is right many companies use this movement piggy backed with the DD without a problem! Only problem is the guys in the sweat shop trying to put these watches together! that prick bans us and we let james post up a bunch of bullshit that i hope was approved by alan before posting!

I post here for informational purposes only.


was this approved by anyone here, as you know were not a big invicta house so it's pretty much a joke here!

Sorry, I just pretty much YAWN at all things Invicta...

They do have a FEW nice watches and I have commented as such on those...

I don't have a problem with people voicing FACTUAL accounts of issues with the brand but, XMT is NOT a place to give JS AIRSPACE to CYA...

Thanks!

very ballsy move to come into someone else's house and post up shit from someone who has banned most of us! Low class move, are you going to get your membership back again james until the next time! Posting at your place is one thing but coming over here and repeating nothing but lies is way out of line in my book!

Does anyone believe that Eyal came to town 2 days early to personally pull the defective Speedways from stock? You'd think a no bull hard-charger like that could get his troops whipped into shape. The reality is this same crap happens over and over different day-different model. Just rings a little hollow here.

merichar wrote:

Does anyone believe that Eyal came to town 2 days early to personally pull the defective Speedways from stock? You'd think a no bull hard-charger like that could get his troops whipped into shape. The reality is this same crap happens over and over different day-different model. Just rings a little hollow here.

Mark, you've hit the nail on the head and we have another forum owner deciding to post on our forum in case someone has bought the watch with a fix! The fix is to call rebecca in the morning!!! Same old bullshit, i can here skelton saying it! Another invicta major screw up and they even come to us to get the word out! what a joke!

Nice job boss, very nice job! i didnt think i could respect you anymore but you just proved me wrong!! Bravo!

cali kid wrote:

very ballsy move to come into someone else's house and post up shit from someone who has banned most of us! Low class move, are you going to get your membership back again james until the next time! Posting at your place is one thing but coming over here and repeating nothing but lies is way out of line in my book!

Trev, what the hell is wrong with you???? or all of you???? I read here everyday, and for the most part, i only read at freeks as well, because i just dont have lots of time to post, but when i see something like this, ill make and exception. Im not going to defend James, because im sure he will comment on his own. But, lets break this down, first off, come into someone else's house? , funny, i guess Alans statement of this is our forum, doesnt apply anymore. When had James ever started anything here, to try and rile you guys up, or started any trouble??? Hey, everyone has difference of opinions sometimes and somethings can get heated, but are you kidding, you guys are pissed off because James, who is banned from Geeks, and me, who has been banned from geeks since last November, and most of our mods and a good amount of our members at freeks are banned, but yet somehow, what, we are trying to suck up to assbag skelton and davis??? He was posting info , that he thought might be relevant to anyone who reads your forum , and had an issue with this watch. Low class and ballsy? Ill give ya low class and ballsy, you numbnuts can go on talking about me and James and anyone else all ya want,, and say whateve you want, you and the other 8 members that actually post here daily, and have a blast. Trev, i have never had an issue with you, but dude, im sorry, your way off base about James's intentions of what he posted here, and as you have said many times, i think someone needs to get there head out of there ass. Delete what needs to be deleted here in my post, change it whatever way you see fit and blast me all over your site if you want, the reality is , i do these forums for fun, and apparently some people take it way too seriously.

. . .

Personally appreciate an update on the drama - almost better than CSI
So - thanks.

FYI:
I have been passively aggressively banned with a targeted slow account hack on WG.
While not banned outright - my account is essentially unusable.

No communication whatsoever as to why, or when the penalty box will be lifted.
I did not violate any terms of the "posted" TOS. Only the unwritten TOS known only to them.
My comments there (or anywhere) have always been honest, balanced, founded and fair. Good and Bad.

Apparently I struck a nerve in someone that takes all negative Invicta comments personal.
As if punishing the opinions they solicit under the guise of an open forum will somehow render Invicta's reputation clean.
It's a pathetic shame that this snickering juvenile spitball tactic from the back of the classroom is all they can muster.

jaw wrote:

Personally appreciate an update on the drama - almost better than CSI
So - thanks.

FYI:
I have been passively aggressively banned with a targeted slow account hack on WG.
While not banned outright - my account is essentially unusable.

No communication whatsoever as to why, or when the penalty box will be lifted.
I did not violate any terms of the "posted" TOS. Only the unwritten TOS known only to them.
My comments there (or anywhere) have always been honest, balanced, founded and fair. Good and Bad.

Apparently I struck a nerve in someone that takes all negative Invicta comments personal.
As if punishing the opinions they solicit under the guise of an open forum will somehow render Invicta's reputation clean.
It's a pathetic shame that this snickering juvenile spitball tactic from the back of the classroom is all they can muster.

You just cant be that honest Jaws and expect to not be banned!! Sad but true, they would rather have 1000 dumb members than a few who know what they are talking about! they like the members who say that their watch has set on the desk for two days and now it wont run, do you think the battery is dead in my pro diver automatic??

tattoo chef wrote:

cali kid wrote:

very ballsy move to come into someone else's house and post up shit from someone who has banned most of us! Low class move, are you going to get your membership back again james until the next time! Posting at your place is one thing but coming over here and repeating nothing but lies is way out of line in my book!

Trev, what the hell is wrong with you???? or all of you???? I read here everyday, and for the most part, i only read at freeks as well, because i just dont have lots of time to post, but when i see something like this, ill make and exception. Im not going to defend James, because im sure he will comment on his own. But, lets break this down, first off, come into someone else's house? , funny, i guess Alans statement of this is our forum, doesnt apply anymore. When had James ever started anything here, to try and rile you guys up, or started any trouble??? Hey, everyone has difference of opinions sometimes and somethings can get heated, but are you kidding, you guys are pissed off because James, who is banned from Geeks, and me, who has been banned from geeks since last November, and most of our mods and a good amount of our members at freeks are banned, but yet somehow, what, we are trying to suck up to assbag skelton and davis??? He was posting info , that he thought might be relevant to anyone who reads your forum , and had an issue with this watch. Low class and ballsy? Ill give ya low class and ballsy, you numbnuts can go on talking about me and James and anyone else all ya want,, and say whateve you want, you and the other 8 members that actually post here daily, and have a blast. Trev, i have never had an issue with you, but dude, im sorry, your way off base about James's intentions of what he posted here, and as you have said many times, i think someone needs to get there head out of there ass. Delete what needs to be deleted here in my post, change it whatever way you see fit and blast me all over your site if you want, the reality is , i do these forums for fun, and apparently some people take it way too seriously.

i dont know where you even came from don! James had no right to put something skelton posted without asking alan! Sean made some great points what if i copy and pasted them on watch freeks even though you guys banned him, how would that go over??? Hate to say it but this isnt james forum and we dont need to hear just call rebecca for the 1000th time! I've never had a problem with you or james for that matter but it still doesnt give him the right to spout stuff from someone who wants nothing from us and has banned most of us for no reason! I can see Alan feels the same way since the quote are gone! Then to say it was from someone that sells the products, at least say JS, we've all read his crap and can spot it a mile away! these same douchebags wouldnt allow alan to tell people he was starting his own forum and you honestly think we should give them a platform here get real! Think i will copy and paste Seans comments and post at WF's and we will see how the shoe fits on the other foot! i like the 8 members comment but you're giving yourself way too much credit, not once in any post did i hear your name mentioned? And dont give that crap that its ok for james to post whatever he wants and one of us post something about invicta sizes being way to big and we get threatened and ran off by a few goons, so it's ok for you guys to come here and do as you like but we cant do the same at WF's without taking a bunch of shit from ripit and his posse? James would have had to know this wouldnt float over hear, if invicta has another problem let them fix it somewhere else because the eight of us dont own many in the first place!

Well first off Trev, like i said, i posted a response because i felt i needed to, and wanted to, Second, i wasnt giving myself too much credit, im a nobody, period, i meant blast me for the post that i just made. Thirdly, go ahead and copy and paste anything Sean posts as long as it is not derogatory or demeaning, i could care less, Sean has tons of knowledge no doubt , so lets not use him as this issue.

Lets get this straight, you guys dont like invicta and are a far cry from an invicta forum, but say any of your members or someone that was browsing forums bought this POS Speedway and it was broken and came arcross the post by James here, or it was a banned member and they saw it and now knew what to do to send it in.
Your acting like James did something horrific here by posting info to get a watch repaired, like he is in cahoots with D-bag skelton or something, or that there were some bad intentions. As usual, there was a better way to handle things, a simple Pm to James about the post and why you didnt want it here, and a quick delete button, and all would have been gone, and James would have understood completley, but instead, Jame's edited posts remain, then you come in here and start blasting him for posting it saying it was low class??? WTF. Trev, I dont consider you a bad person, but you seem to have a real bad bad taste in your mouth for this shit, and I get it, I had it as well, as all of us had, but i think you are taking it a little too far, James is not an enemy and we all stopped drinking the kool aid long ago, and I really feel you were off base with James intentions. Thats my opinion.

Don was going to post up some of sean expertise and since he not a member at wf's was going to copy and paste but you've closed the thread and you come over here and bitch about the situation when you couldnt stomach it at your own place!!

Wow, Trev , you are way off base, bro. First off, being run off freeks by goons, are you F'N serious???? Where in the hell did we Run you off of Freeks. Yeah, Ripitron has his own way of saying things, and yep, you guys and others have gotten into with him, I guess in the same way that people have done with Sean(Sean, i apologize for using you as an example, Trevor brought it up and im just comparing).

You and Rip starte personally attacking each other, completley different situation, then James coming here and posting info on a watch repair IN A THREAD ABOUT THE SAME WATCH IN QUESTION .........and you think he should have asked Alan his permission to post it, Geez, um , high horse, yeah, come down off of it, christ , you act as if its the end of the world as we know it.

Oh, and for all that read this, RipitRon has been deal with many times, his posts edited and deleted by us, and told to cool down among other things. He has not broken our TOS, and if he did, he wouldnt be there. Trev, you have not broken TOS on freeks, and are still welcome to post there as well, nothing wrong with difference of opinon, you guys got into personally attacking each other and James dealt with it, yet neither of you are banned from there, so I dont understand where all your animosity is coming from!!!!!

cali kid wrote:

Don was going to post up some of sean expertise and since he not a member at wf's was going to copy and paste but you've closed the thread and you come over here and bitch about the situation when you couldnt stomach it at your own place!!

DAMN STRAIGHT !!!!!, your right I couldnt stomach it, because like i said, James posted the info for people having issues with the watch and what needed to be done, Not to have a bash thread on Invicta and geeks, two things i could care less about!!! I AM NOT BITCHING ABOUT THE SPEEDWAY SITUATION TREVOR, REPEAT, NOT BITCHING ABOUT THE SPEEDWAY SITUATION, my issue is with how you reacted towards James for posting the info here, and like i said , a simple pm to James about it , and all would have been solved. Im not speaking for James, but am i sticking up for him, yep, he is a friend , and I felt the need to chime in. Maybe it was wrong for me to do so, but wont be the first time in my life I was wrong.

. . . been a while since anything Invicta was debated here. This thread was dying. I thought it would completely. I believe the point was more that Alan doesn't care for it here, and drew the line. Pretty good hill to die on.

i just posted my watch of the day over there, we can disagree but i'm still going to use your site unless i get banned just as i would expect james to use this one just becasue we dont agree! Don, i've always liked you and james but if we only have 8 members why waste the time posting all the crap that came out of JS mouth and at the same time why did you have to lock your thread down! There are still alot of hard feelings here between wg's and xmt and sorry you got yourself into the middle of it but we cant get anything into wg's and you expect us to look the other way when we both now jim wrote that! that movement is used all over the world by many companies without any problems and invicta tries it and what happens, its junk and we feel there is no reason in the world to help spread or cover more lies! again nothing against james and especially you! sure james had good intentions but when your own thread is locked why bring it over here! I''m going to bed and sorry if a pissed you off and i can see we both have our own opinion on this one but you need to respect alan's choice to delete the quote and we didnt lock down the thread and i still feel you wouldnt like it if i posted something from a banned member at your place, you would have to delete it or lock it down becasue we both know a few guys would throw a fit! Goodnight, i've missed talking to you and wished it was on better terms but i hold no ill feelings and hope you and james feel the same!

cali kid wrote:

Why are we letting jim post on our forum through james???? !

I just heard about this uproar/drama until this morning.
I never speak to Jim any more because I am 100% banned on his site and never getting back in, which as most people know is fine with me.
Those announcement posts about the Speedway problems keep getting sent to me, via email from another member on my forum. since they are the only official info coming out about this current problem with a watch model I have reposted them on the forums I post on, which is only a few places. I posted another one here a few weeks ago in this thread and never heard any uproar or concern.
I posted this one because it again speaks about what they are supposedly doing and for people who did purchase one of these and might be having issues it was important.

No problem with me. What I don't understand is why I did not receive one private message or email about this situation. You could have simply sent me one quick PM saying that the info was not wanted to be reposted here and was being removed. To which I would have say "OK" and end of story.

I have done nothing on this forum to show I have been anything but a contributing member in many threads. If you feel differently that is of course your opinion and I will take a self imposed break from XMT

jaw wrote:

Personally appreciate an update on the drama - almost better than CSI
So - thanks.

no problem Jaw. All I thought I was doing was providing the only updated info on the situation.

NO ONE HERE bought the watch...NO ONE. So why do we care about repair issues?

Just another SHODDY product by Invicta, that's not a slam, it's a FACT!

case closed.

andrema wrote:

TVDinner wrote:

Additional New Announcement Info posted today - again by the same person on another forum
about this situation.

Quote :

NO JS MESSAGES HERE, THANKS!

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Eyal should do himself a favor and stick with the same quartz movement on all of his watches...get that right first and then move onto them fancy automatic movements

Yes, you need to master this


so that this doesn't happen


and G*d forbid you try this before you master the above

Wow,great reading material.I see a book being written about this.Someone get DMB to write it.The guy does the greatest amazon reviews.lol
James,Don,Ron has broken freeks rules on a number of occasions,like posting pms on the forums,using poor language,attacking members,etc.
one of your moderators threatened me in a pm over nothing.While I enjoyed my time there,anything that was posted negative about Invicta,
even though true was either edited or deleted.I asked to have my account removed and banned.That didn't happen until I told you
to blow me in a pm.James,you're an invicta fool and always will be.You don't understand anything about watches or the companies
that make them.Maybe learn about these time pieces 1st.Drama sells.When you post jims shit here,that just brings more sales and interested
readers to WGs.Thats not something that these guys want to promote here.While the membership posting is fairly low here,the content
is worlds better than whats on your own forum.Theres no forum here for invicta deals or anything else related to shop or wg.Bringing that
bullshit and drama here pisses not only trevor off,but me as well.
Here,dissagreements can happen,even get seriously heated.Sometimes thats needed to vent.Sometimes that brings underlining issues
between people to the surface.At that point,it can be solved.While trevor,alan,doc,me,and others might not see things the same
on some things,we can hash it out on the forums then get back to the watches again and leave the anger behind.
But not at watchfreeks.You guys don't allow any type of arguements to continue.Its impossible to have a forum succede when
taking away true debate.Wus has survived longer because you can get heated in a thread and not worry about having it closed because
someone got all butt hurt over something minor.
I still see your forum as a sub forum for watchgeeks.You like big watches.Theres a world of them out there at all price points and they don't
say invicta on them.Invicta doesn't bring inovation or new ideas to the table.They copy design concepts from other companies,
then find who can make them the cheapest and then sell them to people who don't know enough to avoid them.per unit case cost
is only about 8 usd for most chinese produced cases.The movement costs the most with these.
You guys will buy a watch,get a bad one,order another,get another bad one.You continue until a good one arrives.
Then you buy another invicta.Same problems.people learn that if a product is defective,to not purchase more of them.
But since invictas are so cheap,you just don't get it.If these were 2k watches and they always arrived damaged,you'd not be buying more of them.

If it wasn't for value pays and a 30 day return policy,Shop would have to close its doors.That forum is the joke of the watch world.
Members will get there collection of 50 watches in 2 to 4 months while paying off 10 value pays at a time.
The real watch collectors,the members on forums such as this and on wus learned long ago to pay up front for a watch.
You'll value a watch much more and spend more time researching it when you know you'll be paying cash.But use value pays?
you don't learn a thing except how to waste your money.